Summary Document Of Problems With 5G and “Small Cells”

Summary Document Of Problems With 5G and “Small Cells”

…Intended for use at the local, state or federal levels as well as for raising public awareness. 
 
PDF summary document complete with links to references on the “downsides” of 5g and the Internet of Things (IoT).
Please feel free to use this document in full or in part (no attribution needed) to inform local, state, or federal officials of why people increasingly think 5G and cell tower antennas outside all our homes is…well…just a really bad idea. 

(Please email us at rethinking5g@whatis5g.info if you would like a WORD document to work from.)
 
TOPICS INCLUDE:
Brief overview of 5g, the IoT, and small cells
Benefits of fiber optics
Health
Wildlife
ADA Rights
Data Harvesting
Cyber Security 
Energy Drain
US Embassy in Moscow Irradiated with lower levels than 5g
Declining Property Values
Liability
Disaster Relief and Severe Weather Events
Public Safety
Model Ordinance And Examples of Protective Ordinances
FCC’s Outdated “Safety” Guidelines for RF
Millimeter Wave Frequencies and Phased Arrays
Our Kids Are Paying for 5G With Their Lives
Buried Deep In E-Waste
What’s Going On In Government re 5G
No Business Case 
Will 5g “Bridge the Digital Divide”? (Hint, no it won’t)
Job Loss
Enough’s Enough – Saturated With Tech
 
URGENT! Call To Action – 5G Telecom Bills in Maryland General Assembly!!

URGENT! Call To Action – 5G Telecom Bills in Maryland General Assembly!!

There are currently four Telecom-generated 5g-bills in the Maryland General Assembly that would allow harmful radiation-emitting cell tower antennas next to our homes.
  • Small cells would be deployed on Maryland street lights, buildings, and near homes without any say from local voices.
  • Towers could be right up next to our homes – mere feet from our bedroom windows.

Basically, the bills strip our towns and cities from almost all authority regarding these so-called “small cell” facilities.

We need to come together and voice our opposition LOUD and CLEAR!

Please try to attend the Senate Finance Committee Hearing this Tuesday, Feb. 26th, at 1:00 p.m.

East Miller Senate Building Room 3
11 Bladen Street
Annapolis, Maryland
(301) 858-3145

If you plan to submit written comments, you will need to bring 20 copies. Here is a link to the Senate Finance Committee FAQ Guidelines: http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/pubs-current/current-fin-faqs.pdf

This is an important hearing! So please do make every effort to attend, and if possible, to testify.
(NB: Currently these 2 bills are last on the hearing schedule that day, but that can change.)

There are two Bills In the Senate Finance Committee:

SB 937
Wireless Facilities — Installation and Regulation
Sponsored by Senator Klausmeier

SB 713
Wireless Facilities — Permitting and Siting
Sponsored by Senator Beidle

And two identical companion bills In the House Economic Matters Committee:

HB 654
Wireless Facilities — Installation and Regulation
Sponsored by Chair Dereck Davis

HB 1020 (Pending?)
Wireless Facilities — Permitting and Siting
Sponsored by Del. Lisanti

SB 937 and HB 654 are far more egregious than the other two bills, but all four bills would result in cell tower antennas throughout our neighborhoods and next to our homes.

  • SB 937 and HB 654 essentially let cell tower companies do whatever they want.
  • SB 713 and HB 1020 lock in current FCC rules which are (thankfully) being challenged in court. If FCC is overturned in court, Marylander’s would still be burdened by the rejected FCC rules.
Please try to attend the hearing, make calls, send emails and written comments, testify, share this post on Social Media, and/or with friends, family, and colleagues. 
Take Action Now

We made the difference and halted similar bills last year.  We can do it again!
 
1. Call and Write to the House Economic Matters Committee 
(Email addresses and telephone numbers for Committee members can be found below).

Phone/Email Suggested Script:

Please oppose SB 937 and SB 713 [or HB 654 and HB 1020 heard on Feb. 21st, if contacting the Economics Matters Committee] scheduled to be heard on February 26th at 1:00 pm in Senate Finance Committee. These bills are both giveaways to the telecommunications industry at the expense local communities, public safety and our health. Although SB 713 is a bit more consumer friendly, both bills would allow the the telecommunication companies to place their industrial equipment next to our homes with no regard for the safety of our communities. 

We don’t want more wireless capacity. We don’t want more wireless devices and all the unnecessary Internet-connected things. What we DO want is safe, fast, reliable, cyber secure, and energy efficient fiber to all homes and businesses in Maryland.

Please protect our local communities and vote NO on SB 937 and SB 713 [or HB 654 and HB 1020 if contacting the Economic Matters Committee].

2. Show up in person to testify at the hearing
The more people the better.  The hearing is on February 26th at 1:00 pm. BUT YOU MUST SIGN UP IN PERSON BY NOON!  The hearing will take place in the Senate Building at 11 Bladen St., Annapolis, MD in the Senate Finance Hearing Room. Written statements can be longer but verbal remarks must be limited to 3 minutes. For more info, you can call the office at (301) 858-3145)

3. Send an email to all committee members
(Email addresses may be pasted directly into your message)

Emails for the Senate Finance Committee formatted to paste directly into email: malcolm.augustine@senate.state.md.us, pamela.beidle@senate.state.md.us, joanne.benson@senate.state.md.us, brian.feldman@senate.state.md.us, antonio.hayes@senate.state.md.us,steve.hershey@senate.state.md.us, jb.jennings@senate.state.md.us, delores.kelley@senate.state.md.us, katherine.klausmeier@senate.state.md.us, Ben.Kramer@senate.state.md.us,edward.reilly@senate.state.md.us

Email addresses of the Economic Matters Committee formatted to paste directly into email:
dereck.davis@house.state.md.us, brian.crosby@house.state.md.us, ct.wilson@house.state.md.us, cheryl.glenn@house.state.md.us, christopher.adams@house.state.md.us, courtney.watson@house.state.md.us, Diana.Fennell@house.state.md.us, eric.bromwell@house.state.md.us, Johnny.Mautz@house.state.md.us, kathleen.dumais@house.state.md.us, kris.valderrama@house.state.md.us, lily.qi@house.state.md.us, lorig.charkoudian@house.state.md.us, mark.fisher@house.state.md.us, MaryAnn.Lisanti@house.state.md.us, mike.rogers@house.state.md.us, Ned.Carey@house.state.md.us, pam.queen@house.state.md.us, rick.impallaria@house.state.md.us, Seth.Howard@house.state.md.us, steven.arentz@house.state.md.us, talmadge.branch@house.state.md.us, warren.miller@house.state.md.us

Here’s a summary document that may be useful for learning more about some of the major issues surrounding the deployment of 4g/5g small cells throughout our neighborhoods.
https://whatis5g.info/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Summary-of-5g-issues-for-activists.pdf

Many thanks. And please share this post with the WHOLE STATE OF MARYLAND!!

2019 Senate Finance Committee – Phone, email, district

Chair: Senator Kelley    Delores Baltimore            10           410.841.3606      delores.kelley@senate.state.md.us

Vice Chair: Senator Feldman, Brian                  Montgomery     D15        410.841.3169      brian.feldman@senate.state.md.us      

Senators in the Finance Committee        

Augustine, Malcolm        Prince George’s                D47       410.841.3745  malcolm.augustine@senate.state.md.us 

Beidle, Pamela                Anne Arundel      D 32       410.841.3593      pamela.beidle@senate.state.md.us      

Benson, Joanne`              Prince George’s                D24       410.841.3148      joanne.benson@senate.state.md.us    

Hayes, Antonio                 Baltimore City    D40        410.841.3656      antonio.hayes@senate.state.md.us      

Hershey, Jr.,  Stephen   Kent, Queen Anne’s, Cecil, & Caroline    36           410.841.3639                steve.hershey@senate.state.md.us      

Jennings, J.B.                     Baltimore & Harford  D7  7410.841.3706  jb.jennings@senate.state.md.us            

Klausmeier, Katherine   Baltimore            D8           410.841.3620 katherine.klausmeier@senate.state.md.us             

Kramer, Benjamin           Montgomery     D19        410.841.3151      Ben.Kramer@senate.state.md.us           

Relly, Edward                     Anne Arundel    D33        410.841.3568      edward.reilly@senate.state.md.us


2019 House Economic Matters Committee Members: Phone, email, district
     

Last Name           First Name          County District  Office Phone     Email    

Adams,                 Christopher        Caroline, Dorchester, Talbot & Wicomico              D37BA   410.841.3343                christopher.adams@house.state.md.us                              

Arentz,                 Steven                  Caroline, Cecil, Kent &Queen Anne’s      D36B      410.841.3543                steven.arentz@house.state.md.us        

Branch, Talmadge            Baltimore City    D45A     410.841.3398      talmadge.branch@house.state.md.us  

Bromwell, Eric                   Baltimore            D8          410.841.3766      eric.bromwell@house.state.md.us        

Brooks, Benjamin             Baltimore            D10A    410.841.3352      benjamin.brooks@house.state.md.us  

Carey, Ned                         Anne Arundel    D31A    410.841.3047      ned.carey@house.state.md.us

Charkoudian, Lorig          Montgomery     D20       410.841.3423      lorig.charkoudian@house.state.md.us 

Crosby, Brian                      St. Mary’s             D29B     410.841.3277      brian.crosby@house.state.md.us           

Davis, Dereck  (Chair)                   Prince George’s                D25B     410.841.3519      dereck.davis@house.state.md.us           

Kathleen Dumais                   Montgomery               D15       410-841-3052 
kathleen.dumais@house.state.md.us

Fennell, Diana                   Prince George’s                D47A    410.841.3478      diana.fennell@house.state.md.us          

Fisher, Mark                       Calvert  27C                       410.841.3231        mark.fisher@house.state.md.us             

Glenn, Cheryl                    Baltimore City    D45B     410.841.3257      cheryl.glenn@house.state.md.us           

Howard,  Seth                   Anne Arundel    D30B     410.946.5400      seth.howard@house.state.md.u            

Impallaria, Richard           Baltimore & Harford         7A         410.841.3289      rick.impallaria@house.state.md.us         

Lisanti,  Mary Ann            Harford 34AB      410.841.3331      MaryAnn.Lisanti@house.state.md.us   

Mautz,  Johnny                 Caroline, Dorchester, Talbot & Wicomico              37BB      410.841.3429                johnny.mautz@house.state.md.us        

Miller, Warren                   Carroll & Howard              D9AB     410.841.3582      warren.miller@house.state.md.us         

Qi. Lily                                   Montgomery     D15        410.841.3090      lily.qi@house.state.md.us          

Queen, Pam                       Montgomery     D14       410.841.3380      pam.queen@house.state.md.us             

Rogers, Mike                      Anne Arundel    D32       410.841.3372      mike.rogers@house.state.md.us            

Valderrama, Kriselda      Prince George’s                D26B     410.841.3210      kris.valderrama@house.state.md.us  

2020 vision: how to fuel your future

2020 vision: how to fuel your future

With the increasing irradiation of our planet, many of us have felt anger or frustration towards our governments for failing to protect our health and environment. I certainly have, and if those responsible had been standing in front of me at the time, I’m sure my anger would have fuelled a heated debate. Usually, though, we don’t have a suitable target for our frustration and it can churn around inside us, affecting us far more than those who have triggered it. But we can channel that emotion into something a lot more productive and rewarding.

Emotions generate a lot of energy. They are energy. They transmit their own powerful message out into our world, whether we’re aware of it or not, and they have an impact. We can sense when someone is angry or resentful, even if they say nothing at all to indicate their mood.

With 5G and other wireless technologies proliferating at an alarming rate, we must find creative ways of effecting the rapid change we wish to see in our world—and we can use our emotions to do this. If we really want to win, we must up our game to a higher plane of possibilities. If we want rapid, profound change, we ourselves must change profoundly, right now.

Changing the rules of engagement

We now know—from quantum physics, neuroscience and breakthroughs in cell biology research—that our thoughts, emotions and perceptions can influence our reality. By focusing our thoughts and emotions in a certain way, we can use them to fuel a vision of an ideal future reality …and literally make it happen.

For scientists or anyone who tends to believe only in what they can see, touch and quantify, this might seem like an implausible scenario. Yet the radiation that is causing so much harm is invisible, unquantifiable and, to most of us, intangible. It transmits at particular frequencies …just as our bodies do. The reality is that we can use our own electromagnetic fields and our higher faculties to put an end to the harmful environmental EMFs, despite what our rational minds might think. We have a choice: we can keep focusing on the problem, or we can focus on a positive solution, promoting our conscious evolution—beyond the control of the industry and without its permission. (Sound familiar?)

Let’s turn the tables on the techno-takeover

What we choose now will determine how things unfold in the coming months, so I urge you to explore this approach with an open mind. Remember: we are only in this situation because most of us were taught to defer to a higher authority—in the workplace, in politics and in religion—rather than trusting in our own wisdom and awareness.

We may therefore be tempted to deny the new scientific evidence relating to the transformative power of our minds and emotions—just as our governments are denying the validity of the science on EMFs, even though it is solid and irrefutable. The ‘new science’ is every bit as solid and, with this new knowledge, we can tap into our higher faculties to turn the tables on those who have exploited our deference for far too long. We can consciously choose to evolve beyond what we’ve been programmed to believe.

We lost consciousness and now we’re waking up

Consciousness is becoming a hot topic, for good reason. Quantum physics has shown that consciousness creates our world and that our experience of it affects our reality. There is growing evidence that the universe itself is conscious, with every sub-atomic particle capable of storing and processing information, and of existing in more than one place at the same time.[1] When we consciously observe something, it changes, causing scientists to conclude that our conscious minds could be controlling our world. This is due to the energy of our conscious focus and the fact that we are all connected in the quantum field, always affecting each other and our world. In that field of seamless energy, there is no separation and time is irrelevant. We can tap into this field consciously when we meditate, gaining access to the infinite possibilities in our universe.

“When you add consciousness, you become the driver of the machine.”
—Bruce Lipton, PhD, cell biologist

We urgently need to get back in the driver’s seat and steer things in a healthier direction. Consciousness is the very antithesis of a technology takeover—and the only true antidote to it. Consciously using our thoughts (which are electrical) and our emotions (which are magnetic), we can have a powerful impact on our circumstances, literally ‘making mind matter’.

“How you think and feel influences every atom in your life and therefore every outer condition,” says Dr Joe Dispenza, who has trained in biochemistry and neuroscience. “Through adjusting our energy to align with states of Higher Consciousness, we can easily alter the course of those outer conditions. Elevated emotional states bring elevated results.”

To help you do this, we have created 2020 VISION—a global project that enables you to create a higher vision for 2020, using a simple process to promote a new reality.

Here are a few key things to remember when crafting your vision:

  1. State your vision in the present tense, as if your goal is already a reality.
  2. Declare it with lots of positive feeling, excitement, detail and gleeful anticipation. The more positive emotion you experience around it, the more powerful and effective it will be.
  3. Keep it simple, positive and focused. Avoid using any negative words, such as fear or anger. Use their positive counterparts instead, focusing on what you want rather than on what currently is. Be mindful of where you place your energy and emotions, given their powerful magnetism.
  4. Be grateful for this new reality, consciously experiencing the joy, relief and jubilation of having actually created it.
  5. Feed your vision every day, keeping it alive in your mind. Don’t let yourself fall back into dread, fear or anxiety. If that happens, reach for your vision and read it out loud to yourself, with lots of energy. Stay committed, reminding yourself that you are neurologically and physiologically designed to create and evolve.
  6. See yourself celebrating in 2020!

Think about what you want and create your vision around that. If you want a world with healthy, eco-friendly technologies, see it! Imagine being free to go wherever you wish—to sit in a café chatting with friends, go shopping, travel, sit on a park bench in the sunshine, attend a workshop, meet new people and explore new places, without being exposed to harmful radiation …and see yourself loving it all.

Pre-living and pre-loving your ideal future reality is the most powerful way to make it happen

This doesn’t mean that we just sit day-dreaming or meditating all day and do nothing. Pre-living our ideal future means taking action in keeping with that envisioned reality, allowing it to guide us. We must show intent, we must embody the positive emotions that we envision having in our ideal reality, and we must make choices that promote the realization of that reality. The more we act and feel in alignment with our vision, the more real it becomes. Feeding our vision daily lifts us, shifting our focus and generating a sense of excitement about good things heading our way. The more we embrace it in our current reality, the more it will elevate our mood, inspiring healthier choices and behaviours, and bringing renewed hope, determination and faith in ourselves.

Given how we have been programmed to think, however, we must be mindful of any negative thoughts or people that might throw us off track or tell us this won’t work. Increasingly, scientists and researchers are confirming the validity of our co-creative capacities and the importance of elevating our consciousness. In her book, The Intention Experiment, award-winning journalist Lynne McTaggart has demonstrated the amplified power of holding a collective vision, which heals and elevates everyone involved. Through his ground-breaking work in cell biology, Bruce Lipton has proven that we can change our DNA—and therefore our genetic destiny—by changing our perception of the world.

Industry has been running things for far too long, because we failed to understand our higher powers. Once we recognize this, we realize that it makes no sense to defer to those other ‘powers that be’. Now we decide what we want. We decide where to place our energy and focus. We decide what emotions we feel. We decide what kind of world we want.

If we want to stop the techno-takeover, we must evolve consciously, on our own healthy terms, as the super-humans that we truly are.

Let’s commit to an enlightened vision that really serves and elevates us. What we focus on now will make all the difference in the world.

Olga Sheean is a writer, editor, relationship therapist and empowerment trainer specializing in human dynamics and quantum potential. She is the author of six books, including EMF Off! A call to consciousness in our misguidedly microwaved world. See https://www.emfoff.com/ and https://olgasheean.com/. E-mail: olga@emfoff.com.

[1] See https://bit.ly/2FMzVC6 for a short article by Harley Manson on this issue, and an excellent video featuring Morgan Freeman.

Message and Comments from Ronald N. Kostoff on Maryland Bills SB 1188 and HB 1767, Wireless Facilities – Permitting and Siting

Message and Comments from Ronald N. Kostoff on Maryland Bills SB 1188 and HB 1767, Wireless Facilities – Permitting and Siting

Maryland Legislative Proposals to Mandate Implementation of Small Cell Towers/5G

By Dr. Ronald N. Kostoff

BACKGROUND

The Maryland legislature has proposed Senate and House Bills (SB 1188 and HB 1767) that would significantly impair the ability of municipalities to regulate the siting of small cellular antennas and related infrastructure.  They would preempt local authority regarding height of poles, size of equipment, amount of fees, and other critical factors that would affect quality of life issues in municipalities.  These Bills would convert an intrinsically local issue into a state issue.  Most of all, they would be a major contributing factor to the onset of myriad serious diseases.  At the end of this letter is a link to Comments I recently sent to the Maryland legislature in opposition to both of these Bills.

MASS KILLINGS WITH GUN-BASED ASSAULT WEAPONS

The health issue related to these small cell towers is central, and needs to be placed in proper context.  Two weeks ago, a lone gunman opened fire in a school in Parkland, FL, killing 17 and wounding 14.  This horrific event sparked outrage among politicians, the media, and citizens across the USA.  It is the latest in a series of such mass killing events.  From 1982-2018, it is estimated that such mass murders resulted in the deaths of over 800 people, an average of about twenty-five per year over that period.

(https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data/)

MASS KILLINGS WITH RADIOFREQUENCY-BASED  ASSAULT WEAPONS

By comparison, our existing cell towers and other wireless transmitting devices are essentially assault weapons firing on our schools, our commercial and government buildings, and our residences, 24/7/52.  The ‘bullets’ they fire are not lead, but rather are packets of non-ionizing radiofrequency radiation (RFR).  In the long-term, they are far more deadly than their lead counterparts because they will impact most of the population, as my EMF health effects book chapter and attached letter show.

MEDIA RESPONSE

Where is the outrage of the media on these fully automatic and continuous RFR-based assault weapons relentlessly attacking our schools and most of our population, 24/7/52?  Over time, these RFR-based assault weapons will inflict orders of magnitude more suffering and premature deaths than the mass gun-based shootings ever would.  Why isn’t the damage inflicted by these RFR-based assault weapons discussed at the top of every media front page?

POLITICAL RESPONSE

Where is the outrage of our local, state, and Federal politicians over proposals to greatly enhance the power of these RFR-based assault weapons by mandating rapid implementation of millions of 5G cell towers throughout our population?  I am hearing impassioned pleas by members of Congress to reduce and restrict the numbers of gun-based assault weapons throughout society in order to to reduce the probability of these mass killings.  Where are their similarly impassioned pleas to reduce the far greater danger from RFR-based assault weapons?

GENERAL POPULATION RESPONSE

Where is the outrage of the general population and the students on having been subjected to these RFR ‘bullets’ in the past from 2G and 3G technology, in the present from the addition of 4G technology, and potentially in the future from the addition of 5G technology? 

I applaud the demonstrating of our citizens, especially the students, against the gun-based violence in the schools.  Why are they not doing similar, if not greater, demonstrating against these RFR-based assault weapons we euphemistically call cell towers?  These RFR-based assault weapons have resulted, are resulting, and will certainly result in producing far more suffering and premature deaths than the horrific mass gun-based shootings ever will.

FINAL THOUGHTS

As I point out in the attached letter, 5G has (for all practical purposes) never had anything resembling credible safety testing performed.  Yet, we are deluged with proposals from local, state, and Federal officials to remove any impediments to accelerated implementation of millions of these 5G-transmitting small cell towers throughout the USA. 

How would these politicians react if one of the major airlines introduced a fleet of new transport planes that had never been flight tested?  Would they participate in the inaugural flights? Would they volunteer members of their family to participate in the inaugural flights?  Analogous to what they are proposing for 5G and its infrastructure, would they mandate that their constituents participate in the inaugural flights?  If not, why are they willing to mandate the imposition of 5G and its infrastructure on their constituents?

In fact, the premier biomedical literature tells us in no uncertain terms that these RFR-based assault weapons are extremely dangerous to human health above some relatively low RFR threshold exposures.  These results are obtained despite the conduct of most RFR health impact studies under conditions most favorable to minimizing adverse health impacts of RFR. 

Implementation of these 5G/small cell tower proposals at the local, state, or Federal level should be opposed to the maximum extent possible!

RNK

Comments by Ronald N. Kostoff sent to Sponsors of SB 1188 and HB 1767, and Members of the Senate Finance Committee and the Rules and Executive Nominations Committee. 

https://whatis5g.info/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/COMMENTS-by-Ronald-N.-Kostofff-on-SB-1188-and-HB-1767.pdf

How many 5G cell towers are coming to our communities? Verizon discloses the huge numbers

How many 5G cell towers are coming to our communities? Verizon discloses the huge numbers


By Nina Beety
 

On June 28, 2017

in a California Assembly hearing on 5G and Senate Bill 649, Verizon, Rudy Reyes told legislators how many 5G and 4G utility pole cell towers (“small” cells or nodes) communities can expect (transcript below). These are new densified networks, above and beyond all the existing cell towers.
 


Verizon: “We are going to need about five to ten times the number of 5G nodes, as we will 4G LTE nodes. Just for downtown LA, Verizon alone is going to need around 200 to 300 small cells just to densify for 4G LTE. Then you have to multiply that by five to ten times for when we get to 5G.”
 


Industry typically minimizes the real numbers, so they could be much higher.
 


As an example, for downtown Los Angeles (5.84 square miles), Verizon would “need”:
300 4G cell towers + 3000 5G cell towers = 3300 new Verizon cell towers

And for Palo Alto:
 Verizon initially plans 93 4G LTE utility pole cell towers.
Plus 930 5G Verizon cell towers = over 1000 new Verizon cell towers in Palo Alto.

That’s for Verizon 5G alone. Then you need to factor in the other companies that will also want to “play ball” – T-Mobile, Sprint, and AT&T, at a minimum, with other regional players wanting in as well.  Each of these will likely want to stake out similar cellular “real estate” for themselves. Will that mean 4X, 5X, 6X  the number of separate 5G cell towers? And how many will “collocate” — load their cell tower gear on the same utility pole with another carrier, further overloading it? No one can predict how many more towers this will result in, but either way – new tower for each company or collocation – the RF will increase exponentially with 5G. 

Communities in California and other states are rolling out these utility pole cell towers now. Once a precedent is set, and one wireless carrier gets into an area, the 4G/5G expansion will be extremely difficult to stop. The time to stop these is now.

http://www.calchannel.com/video-on-demand/

Hearing, Assembly Local Government Committee

June 28, 2017

2:35:28 – 2:39:08
 


Excerpt:

Assembly Member Ridley-Thomas: ..Might you know how many towers you’ve had sited on a good year, in small cells, because I think the number in the analysis is 30-50,000 industry-wide. I don’t know if you have a perspective on California? What’s a good number in terms of siting either small cells or towers or combined?
 


Verizon Rudy Reyes: With the chair’s permission, I can’t tell you how many cell towers are statewide, but what I can say is that we’re going to need a lot more small cells because of the spectrum quality, that they don’t, the spectrum does not propagate as far as a cell tower. So, a cell tower might give you five to ten miles radius of coverage, but the small cells for 4G LTE densification, which you’re right, goes a few blocks. For 5G, the spectrum is going to be millimeter wave spectrum. That spectrum goes much shorter distances, maybe 100 feet and requires a line of sight. So, as you move, as Moore’s law happens, Assembly Member Vogel, and you go from the towers, to the 4G LTE small cells, to the 5G nodes, you’re going to see them get smaller in dimension and you’re going to see them get many, many more. We are going to need about five to ten times the number of 5G nodes, as we will 4G LTE nodes. So it really is about p times q, price times quantity. So this cost formula needs to pencil out in order to bring 5G to California.
 


Ridley-Thomas: So the nodes are substantially smaller. What size? Cause I’ve seen photos and all that. What size are they? Do we know? Are they a couple of feet?
 


Panel: You mean the distance.
 


Ridley-Thomas: The nodes. I mean the nodes for 5G.
 


Verizon: So the 5G nodes are currently being invented, to Assembly Member Grayson’s point. We’re in pre-trial commercial testing, and we’ve announced in 11 cities that we’re doing that right now. We’ll be doing that in the city of Sacramento in the second half of this year, if all goes well.
 


And then, we’re in a desperate race to be the first to deploy 5G in our country. So those nodes are expected to be significantly smaller in size than the current 4G LTE small cells.
 


Ridley-Thomas: The reason I started this question is to get a sense of how much installation activity there would be in a normal course versus what would be anticipated for here. In the 30-50,000 number over 5-7 years, is what the analysis suggests, so we would anticipate probably no more than 10,000 a year small cell installations? Is that kind of what we’re thinking about?
 

Verizon: Just for downtown LA, Assemblymember Ridley-Thomas, we’re going to, Verizon alone is going to need around 200 to 300 small cells just to densify for 4G LTE. Then you have to multiply that by five to ten times for when we get to 5G.